My visualization skill was already decent, maybe 35-40% and it took two years of daily practice to get to 80% ish. Hypnagogic assisted visualization is like 100%+ indistinguishable from real life.
The way I see it a tulpa is two things: Autonomy and complexity. The autonomy part can be made instantly or take a long time to get right, depending on how suggestible you are and what your mindset is.
Complexity can be achieved with strong personality forcing early on or over time with exposure to the world. Complexity though is a funny beast. It sort of works in the same way, but your mind will fill in the blanks often in a very stupid way if they start attaching themselves to negative thoughts you're having. A tulpa should be questioning what it's making part of its identity if it's doing things the long-way, rather than just accepting any stray thoughts as theirs. Or the result is that they just attach to whatever random nonsensical stuff the brain is generating all the time - which can often be really unhealthy and self-deprecating to internalize.
I generally would not entertain that without talking to a professional.
I certainly wouldn't take headmates appearing without effort to be the only factor prior to assuming that, not without some other sort of dissociative issues present.
Yes ofc you should talk to a professional if you suspect that
3:53 AM
Yeah sorry if I worded that wrong I don't think I'm capable of diagnosing anyone I've just heard that that might be one of the signs and it's something to maybe research just to be safe
Yes ofc you should talk to a professional if you suspect that
@Tinyparrot - jump
no, research is the last thing you want to do, especially if you have accidental tulpas. you can by accident force your system into believing it has did/osdd.
medical students experience this, why would an uneducated person have a higher chance of avoiding it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_students%27_disease
just talk to a professional if there are any concerns and don't do any research on your own
Again, I'm not trying to diagnose anyone, but I've personally done a lot of research into DID and OSDD and even looked through the criteria to make sure I didn't have it, is it really such a bad thing to educate yourself?(edited)
we've seen multiple times in did community singlets joining just to do research and changing their name to "system" after a few days
in fact we haven't seen a singlet that stayed a singlet for longer than a week in did community
it shows how suggestive and vulnerable people can develop pseudo-did symptoms especially if they do know criteria
it gets so bad that once we met a person who was saying "did/osdd is not that uncommon! i helped 25% of people on my gaming discord realise they have did"
12:37 PM
i know you mean well but there is a danger in suggesting that someone can have a strong disorder and tell them to do research
if you say it to vulnerable and suggestible person that research will work on them like personality forcing
Generally speaking, more knowledge is usually an advantage. However, in this specific sort of situation, there's a real risk of misdiagnosing oneself. Medical students' disease is a serious threat and is not to be taken lightly.
the only benefit from knowing if you have did is if it means you will get treatment
if you want to know if you have did you might as well go to a professional and explore it with them
That's just your own experience, I'd like to see if there's actual documentation on this, maybe the 25% DID thing was a coincidence or someone being intentionally manipulative
but i am aware i should not be giving anything close to medical advice
12:43 PM
"Medical students' disease (also known as second year syndrome or intern's syndrome) is a condition frequently reported in medical students, who perceive themselves to be experiencing the symptoms of a disease that they are studying."
how much better a person with no training can be immune to that?
12:44 PM
no!!
12:44 PM
Medical students' disease (also known as second year syndrome or intern's syndrome) is a condition frequently reported in medical students, who perceive themselves to be experiencing the symptoms of a disease that they are studying.
yes! enough to know that
Medical students' disease (also known as second year syndrome or intern's syndrome) is a condition frequently reported in medical students, who perceive themselves to be experiencing the symptoms of a disease that they are studying.
I do know this exists, I have had my own "episodes" of medical student disorder ex. one time I thought I might have bipolar disorder for two days then realized I probably didn't
If someone thinks they have DID/OSDD and they consult a therapist, then they'll either learn that they have it or learn that they have medical student disorder
Either way, going to a therapist will address the problem
12:48 PM
But if someone doesn't think they have DID/OSDD after looking at the symptoms, they don't have to see a therapist
Tinyparrot
If someone thinks they have DID/OSDD and they consult a therapist, then they'll either learn that they have it or learn that they have medical student disorder
from what we've seen in did community singlets that researched did and started experiencing pseudo-did are not seeking help they are just being dragged into experiencing some of the symptoms more
the problem is if the research involves getting into did community which is very unhealthy
12:49 PM
well i'm glad we agree on this
12:53 PM
please look at it this way:
there are different types of plural systems
there are gateway systems tulpa systems soulbond systems and others
when someone starts developing plural symptoms by themselves the first thing they read about will define the believes about how their system works
if they read a guide to soulbound as their first one and they resonate a bit that's basically system forcing which will guide them towards believing their headmates are real entities from other dimension or real ghosts
similarly if someone mentions did to them they might resonate with it a bit and with time the did guides will be system forcing guides like it works for gateway systems tulpa systems and soulbound systems
it will have expectations of how things work and it will make you experience it(edited)
12:53 PM
please remember about osdd-2 which is basically did but resulted from brainwashing
12:54 PM
everyone experiences dissociation to some extend and it can become much more severe to a did-level and it's even described in dsm-5 under osdd-2
12:54 PM
for someone suggestible reading and doing research can be equivalent of self-brainwashing
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